Congratulations are in order, as Downton Abbey was last night named best drama at the National Television Awards. Full details of all the awards presented last night can be found on The Telegraph and The Guardian.
ALL THE NEGATIVE FUROR OVER DAN STEVENS LEAVING DOWNTON ABBEY. THIS MULTI-TALENTED YOUNG MAN CERTAINLY HAS EVERY RIGHT, TO PURSUE OTHER ENDEAVORS AND CHALLENGES. TO MY KNOWLEDGE, DAN TREATS EVERYONE WITH COURTESY AND KINDNESS, AND HE DESERVES NO LESS. GOD SPEED AND GOOD LUCK DAN, I EXPECT GREAT THINGS FROM YOU!
It's only one sentence but it means more than one million words to explain what only a veteran in this career would know too well: "It's a very funny career to try to make any sense of as I only know too well. "
The whole team deserves the award! Everyone of the team did such a great job!
I was soooooo happy it was a shame that you weren't there Dan!!!!! I love you babe!!!
So pleased to see this-
Downton Abbey creator and writer Julian Fellowes doesn't blame his lead actor Dan Stevens for wanting out of the hit ITV1 period drama.
Downton won best drama at the National TV Awards and Julian told whatsontv.co.uk he thought the reaction had been harsh to the death of Dan's character Matthew Crawley.
"It's a bit unfair," he said. "He's a young actor, he's got his way to make in the world. I think sometimes as an actor, you get this feeling I've done this long enough, it's time for me to move on and you have to do that when you're young. He's already married, he's already got two children, so it's already difficult to make those big changes.
"I don't blame him at all, he wants to try something different. Not a bit, I love him."
Well, Julian Fellowes could hardly run Dan Stevens down for exercising his freedom of choice. It would not be the gentlemanly thing to do on the public media.... and certainly not when it was possibly due to Dan Stevens' portrayal of Matthew Crawley that Downton Abbey was able to win the National TV Award for Best Drama.
some people have done some not gentlemanly thing to do on public media and are suffering from their own actions and revelations.
But he does it in his own gentlemanly manner, as he is a noble man with insight, foresight, wisdom and knowledge, no ego, no resentment. So many people have not been so kind and gentleman (They have tried to bring the other party down and discredit them). He and the rest of the cast see themselves to be bigger than just egocentric beings who only think about their own benefits, so this is why the understand the actor's situation even though it's in contrary to what they liked to have. Certainley Downton Abbey has won National TV awards because of the teamwork of every individual involved including the writer's creativity, the musicians, the executives, stylists, beauticians, the cast portrayals of Lord Garnthom, Thomas, Mr Carlson, Lady Mary, the Dowager countess, Cora, Ms. Hughes, Anna, Bates, Daisy, Ms. Patmore, Isobel, etc as a whole. It would not be true and fair to brush off all theses individuals and just pinpoint that Dan Stevens portrayal of Matthew Crawley was the possible reason for them to win. I believe the understanding and thoughtfulness of the fans from the situation happened after Christmas special lead them to vote for Downton despite their extreme annoyance from the last 2 minutes of the 9th episode. Only by watching the manners and professionalism of Lord Fellowes, the rest of the cast and executives to be not destructive towards Dan Stevens, fans have come to believe this is the team that deserves recognition and appraisal (no matter how the end of the episode was a real downfall that none of the above cast and crew wanted to have in the episode just like the fans) and therefore this team should not to be blamed and burnt for one's decision to leave and should be valued as they are very valuable indeed.
Re "Well, Julian Fellowes could hardly run Dan Stevens down for exercising his freedom of choice. It would not be the gentlemanly thing to do on the public media.... "
No, but a lot of people have, so it is good to see and hear the words from Julian Fellowes. I would like to think that they are sincere.
Having watched the interview with Julian Fellowes twice, I believe that he was sincere because he could give several reasons as to why Dan wanted to move on to other things now rather than wait another one or two years. Fellowes understood that Dan might not get the same chance once his children started school. If he had not been sincere I don't think he would have taken all that trouble to explain on Dan's behalf. He also said that fans were not being fair to Dan.
Lord Fellowes is handling the situation to the best of his professionalism to bring some damage control for Dan Stevens and every body understands the facts and undercurrents. The more he does this the more respect and support he will have. Winning The National TV Awards is resembling the fans approval of how Lord Fellowes and the rest of the cast have handled post Christmas reactions.
I totally agree!
He is talking from the bottom of his heart, the same way he has explained similarly in The Telegraph several times so far. He is the winner and winning the National TV Awards is the proof.
Lord Fellowes is handling the situation to the best of his professionalism to bring some damage control for Dan Stevens and every body understands the facts and undercurrents. The more hed does os the more respect and support he will have. Winning The National TV Awards is resembling the fans approval of how Lord Fellowes and the rest of the cast have handled post Christmas reactions.
"Lord Fellowes is handling the situation to the best of his professionalism to bring some damage control for Dan Stevens and every body understands the facts and undercurrents. The more hed does os the more respect and support he will have. Winning The National TV Awards is resembling the fans approval of how Lord Fellowes and the rest of the cast have handled post Christmas reactions."
It is with much interest and a certain amount of anxiety and grief that I have watched, heard and read about the reaction to and the reviling of Dan Stevens for making a decision that did not sit easily with the millions of fans of Downton Abbey as it brought to an abrupt end a key story in this greatly loved drama series - the Matthew and Mary relationship.
As you have said, the professionalism not only of Lord Fellowes but also of the cast of Downton Abbey with regard to the exit of someone they have worked closely with for 3 years is to be applauded. There has not been one negative comment from any of them. We know that Michelle Dockery has caught up with her friend several times since his move to New York and those with whom Dan Stevens worked closely in Downton Abbey have gone to see his performance in The Heiress. He has their support and their understanding and this is very important.
Winning the National TV Award for the Best Drama Series is an affirmation for all associated with Downton Abbey as it was done by public vote.
Yes congrats to all for the NTA award. The reaction to DS leaving is now a bit over the top. However, JF may have more to do after 17 Feb when the CS is shown in the US. Whilst a number of Americans have picked up on it through various ways, many more haven't so it could all brew up again. Perhaps PBS will have a JF interview lined up for immediately after.
The more he does this the more respect and support he will have.
Well done to all involved - cast, crew, production, music.
A special thank you to those who have now left the series, and of course that includes Dan, for their part in making Downton Abbey such a phenomenal success.
No blame assessed against either writer or Dan Stevens. The entire cast is wonderful. HOWEVER, it was short-sighted on someone's part not to recognize that the story of Matthew and Mary was the "heart" of the series.
It just seems a shame right after losing Jessica (Lady Sybil) that Dan (Matthew) is gone too. Yes, life is strange and the rich are not exempt from tragedy, but this is too much too soon. Couldn't M&M have have had a bit of family life!?? I knew it was coming when they agreed right before the wedding that neither would happy with anyone else while "they" walked the earth. Couldn't Matthew come back as a ghost?
Still, Dan is a marvelous actor!
I agree, too much too soon. I know actors can't stay with one show forever, but I wish Dan would have just given DA at least one more season. My hope was that he would stay for S.4 and then have Julian wrap up the whole show. I'm one of the biggest DA fans ever, but a show can stay 'on top' forever. I wanted DA to go out on a great note and I'm afraid that with the Christmas Special's ending it's already starting to go down. :( I know there are plenty of other great actors (I adore all of them!) But I feel that after Jessica leaving and now Dan they've lost two of the main characters and the show (no matter what people say) just can't be the same!
~A Disappointed DA Fan
The show was originally commissioned for 3 seasons, Jessica and Dan opted to stick to that. I personally thing they made the right choice. Can't imagine how hard it must be to just keep hanging on not knowing which way the story lines will go or how many more seasons will be dragged out. As Hugh Bonneville has said in his recently interview, there is now concern that Julian Fellowes should "quit while he's ahead" instead of trying too hard to wring every penny out of this show's hit status by dragging out a S4. I commend Jessica and Dan for bowing out when they did and for giving Julian one full year to write them out however he wished. I can now hope that Julian Fellowes will at least just end things at S4. Otherwise I see more departures of all the key cast members and the dissolution of a show that was good into something of a farce.
Do you think Downton Abbey should quit while it's ahead?
No - I'll miss it so much if it goes!
Yes - It's not as good as it used to be.
Was JF notified by the actors in Feb. 2012, then JF had Feb. to July 2013 to write them out. I guess JF could handle the JBF departure very well but the turn in his real story was showed when all of sudden the modernization of management of DA turned to cricket match and CS, this when he could not go with his own wishes and tried to write DS out. The cast memebers were so supportive of each other tonight at SAG awards as if they have become a devoted family. That was very sweet to watch and people's hearts are captured by their decency and goodwills.
if he would have stayed in DA, he would be among the future nominations and winners. It would be no surprise if Michelle Dockery gets nominated again for Emmy, Golden Globe and etc for S3 in 2014, her turn to win will come (Claire Danes was not easy to win over this year) and if DS had not disappointed the whole industry by his abrupt leaving he could have won these nominations in 2014 also (JF could finish S3 with extending his role to the dominant half master instead of focusing on love confession lines to prepare him to be killed. JF could brought more drama in how to modernize DA financial and business management, one of DS strongest lines was when he was fighting with lord Grantham about the changes required, however I guess this story was left behind to prepare him for his exit at CS, what a downfall!), alas it's his decision. It seems nobody can do anything anymore in this regard unless a miracle happens! By the way I loved the Dowager Countess quote about Ben Cumber... on twitter when DA won the National TV awards.
"...and if DS had not disappointed the whole industry by his abrupt leaving...."
Rather a sweeping statement is it not? What industry are you talking about and do you have evidence to back up your statement.?
He gave his notice at the end of series 2 which could hardly be described as abrupt!
I'm afraid that his role in Downton Abbey would never have been "meaty" enough to have got him nominated for an award.... now as Nick in "The Line of Beauty"...well that would have been a different matter!!
Matthew Crawley's character was one of the meatiest characters on the show that brought fame to Dan Stevens and made him seem to be as lovely as his character.
Matthew Crawley's character was one of the meatiest character's on the show that brought fame to Dan Stevens and made him seem to be as lovely as his character.
To the person who said "rather a sweeping statement", regarding the exaggeration of Dan "disappointing the WHOLE INDUSTRY". Stole the words right out of my mouth. And totally agree with you, much as I admire and love Dan as an actor, he would never have been nominated for an award on DA other than ensemble simply because his role didn't really give him the chance to show off his acting chops the way his role as Nick Guest did. Hopefully, he'll get the opportunity to flex his acting muscle in future projects. He definitely does so on his audiobooks and that's just reading.
Did Nick Guest charactor and acting brought him to overseas fame and recognition?
No, but then again it was only shown on BBC2 which, "was envisaged as a home for less mainstream and more ambitious programmes." according to Wikipedia.
not every BBC show is ambitious. The most ambitious and successful BBC ones still reach all over the world despite less direct BBC mainstream (like Jane Austen's novels movie productions by BBC that are very popular here in the US and also in Asia and the rest of Europe). And if some show producers do not choose to go through BBC productions, it does not mean they are not as ambitious, in fact they may be more ambitious and want to surpass BBC limitations for their creativities.
not every BBC show is ambitious. The most ambitious and successful BBC ones still reach all over the world despite less direct BBC mainstream (like Jane Austen's novel's movie productions by BBC that are very popular here in the US and also in Asia and the rest of Europe). And if some show producers do not choose to go through BBC productions, it does not mean they are not as ambitious, in fact they may be more ambitious and want to surpass BBC limitations for their creativities.
i think you are missing the point I was trying to make. In the UK, BBC 2 is known for its more "highbrow" programmes and only receives an audience share of around 6 percent! The subject matter of "The Line of Beauty" (the book by Alan Hollinghurst won the 2004 Booker Prize) meant that it never reached mass audiences like Downton Abbey has.
No I did not miss the point of limited audience. I wanted to mention despite it's limited audience the real
"highbrow" productions get beyond that 6% and find their way through video DVDs here in the US and elsewhere in the world. And not everyshow on BBC will be a highbrow one. I knew that the story won 2004 booker prize but still the production intelectual message was not a very appealing one to the audience. I am sure if the line of beauty has got some minor sale here in the US, it owes it to the success of DA that brought this curiosity to it's audience to look for other productions with the actors and actresses who played at DA. Otherwise it would have found it's way to the US or other countries independent of DA. There have been so many BBC productions here in the US (independent from other production's fame) that are known here by audience beyond BBC's 6%.
I saw Line of Beauty when first televised and whilst its content may not have been universally appealing Dan's performance was excellent. His casting was perfect as he personified the good looking aesthete. His performance in this and Sense and Sensibility were however not enough for the 'breakthrough' to larger roles. We can all speculate as to why, which is perhaps the reason he has employed American agents to act on his behalf to secure more prominent roles. He may indeed have got tired of DA, but not all roles he inhabits in the future will be exciting and groundbreaking, some of our greatest actors may be seen in 'duds', but it is his choice and his work - he has had in his own mind had an incredibly busy year, this will be his year of saying no, let's hope for the sake of his fans he has enough work to be able to do so.The content of Vamps was appalling - completely irredeemable, one wonders which audience it was aimed at- my teenage girls turned it off.
if it was not, then why so many reactions were made and so many explanations were brought in? There was so much noise about it, therefore it means things were not the way they were expected to be by comon sense or majority. Too many people even the writer and the cast were sad and upset about it, but in the mean time they respected the actor's right to decide for himself. They tried to even defend him and support him despite their sadness that is very gracious of them as they know there is always a learning curve to be learnt and let them to be learnt. They never tried to bring the actor down or discredit him, while unfortunately there are too many discrediting statements made towards the show, the writer and that the rest of cast memebers (they will find themselves to have made a mistake by not leaving the show that is going to be a farce!) that do not sound professional and backfires in anyway possible, as it was shown in some reactions to some articles and comments written before. People may keep silence and give up writing but silence does not equate an approval/ appraisal/ credit/ success/ convincement. It may just means enough said, heard, seen and sensed.
I imagine most of us here have been avid watchers of Downton Abbey and have enjoyed it for what it was, an enjoyable watch on a Sunday evening before a hard week at work. It was never a great piece of historical drama and I don't believe that it was ever intended to be so. Some of it was very tongue- in- cheek and laugh-out-loud funny and most of the action was not meant to be taken as seriously as some people have done on this site and others. It was hardly the Forsyte Saga!
I echo what Hugh Bonneville has said about "quitting while you are ahead" I've a feeling that he too, may feel that the show has run its course. Brendon Coyle has been quoted as saying, "This is a show with a finite life. If we bring it into the 1950s, it's Emmerdale!"
It's sad that some people allow themselves to get far too involved in tv dramas to the point where if some actor leaves to do other things, they take it as a personal affront.
why are you expecting the show loses it's currents success? Is this going to help you to cover up some sense of guilt or is it helping to fight with some sort of regret or is it helping to overcome the fears of facing an error/mistake? The show may continue to be as successful as it is now or may even become more successful and may not ever become unsuccessful. Only time will tell. The genious writer who has been capable to write such characters and put them in such a beautiful story has at least the minimum IQ required to decide when "downton falls" (when show needs to end) by his own words. So why someone worries to prove something negative will happen to the show that has not happened yet and may not ever happen at all? I guess at some points in our lives, we human beings want to prove our imaginations are real (or going to be real) to deceive ourselves in order to run away from facing the current reality.
"Is this going to help you to cover up some sense of guilt or is it helping to fight with some sort of regret or is it helping to overcome fears of facing an error/mistake?"
No. I don't need amateur psychology to tell me that a tv show is running out of ideas, however good it might have been in the three series Julian Fellowes originally planned for. I hope it continues to be successful and I will continue to watch it with interest. I merely found it interesting that other cast members are wondering where Julian Fellowes will be taking them next.
I find his "Janus" column depressing for a number of reasons. Dan Stevens clearly never valued the character of Matthew as much as Julian Fellowes, the show or the fans. A "comfort zone" sounds as if he was playing the police commissioner on "Law & Order" for seven years, reciting the same predictable, tired lines week after week -- not playing a character a number of viewers found appealing and essential to the show. In a way, I feel sorry for Mr. Stevens. The person who has the least amount of understanding and appreciation for a character's importance to the narrative and the show at large shouldn't be the person who played him.
If it is an amateur psychology then why someone is looking for his/her gratification in putting negative comments on a show and it's outcome to be doomed? to prove what purpose?
how do you know "I merely found it interesting that other cast members are wondering where Julian Fellowes will be taking them next." are you one of them or very close among them? None of the cast knew it would become such a success either. They do not know their scripts from the begining except for 2 episodes ahead to shoot. It had been like that and is going to be, so what is the difference?
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